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05/05/2012 à 14:17
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Débutant ![]() ![]() ![]() Groupe : Membre Messages : 38 Inscrit : 05/05/2012 Lieu : North Carolina, USA Membre no 14 659 Logiciel: Aucun de précis |
Hello,
I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can. The info I do have (from a family member) is this: Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France. He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children: 1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13. 2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo. 3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her. Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad. The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler, Thank you so much for any suggestions, BHowell Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.
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11/05/2012 à 19:18
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Débutant ![]() ![]() ![]() Groupe : Membre Messages : 38 Inscrit : 05/05/2012 Lieu : North Carolina, USA Membre no 14 659 Logiciel: Aucun de précis |
Okay. I read over my records from my uncle again and have some personal things I can share. Also, I've wondered if there could be any records from the University of Paris from the 1850's that might show Arthur's parents. He studied there and after getting his doctorate degree, he went back and became a surgeon. I haven't had any luck but it could be that one of you may know something about those records.
According to a daily journal Arthur kept, he came to USA in late 1860s and practiced medicine from Harrisburg, PA to Erie, PA and across northern Ohio in the late 1860s and 1870s. Also, he made several trips back to Belgium and one was to attend his mother's funeral, Louise Renee (PLANTE') CARLIER who died in 1878. Two years later 1880, while on a consult in Toledo, he had a massive stroke and died. He was 39 years old. Ida was married previously to BURDICK and they had a daughter Lettie Mae BURDICK. Arthur adopted her later. Then they had 1) Infant son 1874 stillborn. 2) George Emile CARLIER (my grandfather) and Maude Louise CARLIER MONK (1877-1924). Then my uncle stated that Ida Mae CLOSE died in 1882 at age of 33. |
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11/05/2012 à 20:33
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Okay. I read over my records from my uncle again and have some personal things I can share. According to a daily journal Arthur kept, he came to USA in late 1860s and practiced medicine from Harrisburg, PA to Erie, PA and across northern Ohio in the late 1860s and 1870s. Also, he made several trips back to Belgium and one was to attend his mother's funeral, Louise Renee (PLANTE') CARLIER who died in 1878. Hi Bonnie, François, et bonjour à tous. I continued my search on the familysearch website of the mormons today. No matter what search criteria I use, I cannot find the marriage of CARLIER x CLOSE that must have been late 1860s or early 1870s ( before the birth of George Emile in 1875) It has probably not been indexed yet. However, I found Maud CARLIER born in Pennsylvania in 1877, died in 1924, daughter of Arthur E CARLIER and Ida CLOSE, so she is a sister of George Emile. Bonnie is confirming that information in her last post. THANK YOU so much Bonnie for going through your notes and what you have about your family. Given the last information that you give us: Arthur kept a journal where he mentions going to the funeral of his mother Louise Renée PLANTE in Belgium. Now, we know the name PLANTE comes from her son, and his mother was not a THOMPSON. I think that we can conclude that the couple Henri Emile CARLIER x Louise Catherine THOMPSON (married 1839 in England) are not the parents of Arthur Emile CARLIER x Ida CLOSE and Emilie Louise CARLIER x WHITMORE. We were on a wrong track. Bonnie, do you know where in Belgium Louise Renée PLANTE died in 1878? Does Arthur mentions in his journal the name of the town where the funeral took place? That might be a way to track the family in Belgium. Have a good day Christiane |
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bhowell CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON) 05/05/2012 à 14:17
svangrootenbruelle bonjour Bhowell,
ce n'est pas PLANTE mais THO... 05/05/2012 à 15:03
svangrootenbruelle j'ajoute
mariage paroisse Haut Chelsea comté... 05/05/2012 à 15:21
bhowell Citation (svangrootenbruelle @ 05/05/2012 à 1... 06/05/2012 à 01:11
adecalonne Bonjour B...... , bonjour à tous,
Petit complémen... 05/05/2012 à 18:00
bhowell Citation (adecalonne @ 05/05/2012 à 18:00... 06/05/2012 à 01:14
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cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 07/05/2012 à 01:48) C... 07/05/2012 à 20:15
bhowell Citation (cdubrulle @ 07/05/2012 à 21:15)... 07/05/2012 à 22:52
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 07/05/2012 à 12:52) C... 07/05/2012 à 23:13
bhowell This is so wonderful! Thank you so much! 07/05/2012 à 23:42
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie, it's me again.
Here is a link to th... 08/05/2012 à 01:59
bhowell Thank you so much Christiane. I will never forget ... 08/05/2012 à 03:34
cdubrulle Bonjour Danielle,
J’ai posté par erreur 2 fois l... 08/05/2012 à 02:07
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie,
I am glad I can help you and I have ... 08/05/2012 à 07:27
bhowell Citation (cdubrulle @ 08/05/2012 à 07:27)... 08/05/2012 à 15:25
cfacon Hi Bonnie,
Definitively yes. Anvers for French pe... 08/05/2012 à 16:16
cdubrulle Citation (cfacon @ 08/05/2012 à 07:16) De... 08/05/2012 à 17:05

bhowell Citation (cdubrulle @ 08/05/2012 à 17:05)... 09/05/2012 à 14:04
bhowell Citation (cfacon @ 08/05/2012 à 16:16) Th... 09/05/2012 à 14:07
bhowell Christiane,
I hate to ask for more since you... 09/05/2012 à 17:54
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 09/05/2012 à 07:54) I... 09/05/2012 à 20:34
svangrootenbruelle bonjour,
je suis parti dans l'hypothèse que v... 10/05/2012 à 08:53
bhowell Citation (svangrootenbruelle @ 10/05/2012 à 0... 10/05/2012 à 12:18
cfacon Hi Bonnie,
Thanks to the translation you have ans... 10/05/2012 à 13:54
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie, bonjour Christian et Stephane,
Thank y... 10/05/2012 à 19:14
bhowell Just wanted to clarify that Ida Mae's maiden n... 10/05/2012 à 20:42
bhowell Citation (bhowell @ 10/05/2012 à 20:42) I... 11/05/2012 à 02:59
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 10/05/2012 à 17:59)
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bhowell Citation (cdubrulle @ 11/05/2012 à 05:05)... 11/05/2012 à 11:03
cfacon Hi Bonnie, bonjour Christiane, bonjour à tous,
I ... 11/05/2012 à 16:14
bhowell Citation (cfacon @ 11/05/2012 à 16:14)
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dlarchet Hi Bonnie,
Thank you to use the button "rep.r... 11/05/2012 à 17:50
bhowell Oh thank you. Will I ever get this... *;* So so... 11/05/2012 à 17:55
cdubrulle Bonjour Bonnie et François,
I made also a search ... 11/05/2012 à 18:11
cfacon Hi Bonnie, Christiane, bonjour à tous,
Please fin... 11/05/2012 à 19:36
bhowell Christiane,
The only mention of a city was Dunkir... 11/05/2012 à 20:51
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 11/05/2012 à 10:51)
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bhowell I have to say... I'm disappointed, but mostly ... 12/05/2012 à 01:03
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie,
I understand your disappointment, and ... 12/05/2012 à 06:28
lcaestecker Bonsoir Bonnie et Christiane
Il serait bien de re... 12/05/2012 à 21:39
cdubrulle Citation (lcaestecker @ 12/05/2012 à 11:3... 12/05/2012 à 23:11
lcaestecker Re Bonnie et Christiane
J'ai regardé dans la ... 13/05/2012 à 09:59
bhowell I'm wondering if there is a list of cemeteries... 13/05/2012 à 10:40
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 13/05/2012 à 00:40) I... 13/05/2012 à 17:28
bhowell Hi Christiane, Happy Mother's Day to you and a... 13/05/2012 à 19:23
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 13/05/2012 à 10:23) I... 13/05/2012 à 19:41
cdubrulle Citation (cdubrulle @ 13/05/2012 à 09:41)... 17/05/2012 à 20:05
bhowell Thank you Christiane... hope you hear something ba... 14/05/2012 à 07:11
cfacon Hi Bonnie, bonjour à tous,
Unfortunately, for the... 17/05/2012 à 12:01
cdubrulle Citation (cfacon @ 17/05/2012 à 02:01) Yo... 06/06/2012 à 22:39
cverhaeghe Bonjour Christiane, bonjour Bonnie, bonjour à tout... 07/06/2012 à 14:53
bhowell Thank you both Christian and Christiane. I have be... 17/05/2012 à 22:24
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie,
A quick note to let you know that my me... 24/05/2012 à 07:04
bhowell Christiane,
Thank you so much. I have been obsesse... 24/05/2012 à 20:14
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 24/05/2012 à 11:14) I... 24/05/2012 à 22:00
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie,
In genealogy, we have to start with a ... 31/05/2012 à 00:56
bhowell Christine,
I can't thank you enough for all yo... 31/05/2012 à 17:28
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 31/05/2012 à 07:28) I... 31/05/2012 à 20:04
cdubrulle Bonjour à tous,
Ces derniers jours j’ai posté en a... 01/06/2012 à 22:05
lcaestecker Bonjour Christiane et Bonnie
On attend des indice... 02/06/2012 à 10:35
cdubrulle Citation (lcaestecker @ 02/06/2012 à 00:3... 03/06/2012 à 01:09
bhowell Hi Bonnie
The story of Maude is very telling.
Do ... 02/06/2012 à 18:26
cdubrulle Bonjour à tous/toutes
Voici la TRADUCTION du mess... 03/06/2012 à 23:59
bhowell Ha Christine... not work! It really is like de... 05/06/2012 à 06:01
cdubrulle Hi Bonnie,
Thank you for providing some answers t... 05/06/2012 à 09:16
cfacon Bonjour à toutes et à tous
Voici la TRADUCTION du... 05/06/2012 à 10:44
cfacon Hi Bonnie, bonjour Christiane, bonjour à tous,
-1... 05/06/2012 à 11:45
bhowell I called the local Family History Center and it is... 05/06/2012 à 12:16
bhowell Christian,
Thank you for putting information from ... 05/06/2012 à 13:06
cfacon Bonnie,
Don't be disturbed with COLE & Co... 05/06/2012 à 14:24
bhowell okay 05/06/2012 à 14:34
cdubrulle Hi everyone, Hi Bonnie
Today I went back to the Fa... 06/06/2012 à 05:52
bhowell Wow Christiane, you've been busy... I don... 06/06/2012 à 06:48
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 05/06/2012 à 20:48) W... 06/06/2012 à 08:17
cfacon Bonjour Christiane, Hi Bonnie, bonjour à tous,
Me... 07/06/2012 à 15:46
cdubrulle Citation (cfacon @ 07/06/2012 à 06:46) Me... 07/06/2012 à 17:46
cfacon Bonnie
I tried to send to you a private message t... 07/06/2012 à 15:59
ocoulon salut
je vous expose simplement mon avis ,
je ... 07/06/2012 à 21:54
cdubrulle Citation (ocoulon @ 07/06/2012 à 11:54) s... 08/06/2012 à 00:26
cverhaeghe Bonjour à toutes et tous,
Le point de départ a bi... 08/06/2012 à 12:12
cverhaeghe RE-bonjour à toutes et tous,
Un ami belge, membre... 08/06/2012 à 12:32
aftassin Bonjour à tous,
J'ai suivi "de loin... 08/06/2012 à 13:40
cdubrulle Citation (aftassin @ 08/06/2012 à 03:40) ... 09/06/2012 à 00:07
lcaestecker Salut Olivier, Christiane , Bonnie et les autres
... 07/06/2012 à 23:19
bhowell I want to thank Claude for going to the cemetery. ... 08/06/2012 à 00:50
ocoulon salut christiane
dans ce cas , marques les deux... 08/06/2012 à 19:27
cfacon Bonjour à tous,
Vous trouverez ci-après une autre... 09/06/2012 à 12:02
cdubrulle Citation (cfacon @ 09/06/2012 à 02:02) TR... 09/06/2012 à 19:49
ocoulon salut christian
au moins maintenant c'est du... 09/06/2012 à 16:25
cverhaeghe Bonsoir Olivier, bonsoir Christiane, bonsoir Chris... 09/06/2012 à 22:54
cdubrulle Citation (cverhaeghe @ 09/06/2012 à 13:54... 09/06/2012 à 23:09
bhowell Hi everyone!
My uncle states that our early a... 09/06/2012 à 23:45
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 09/06/2012 à 14:45) M... 10/06/2012 à 00:09
lcaestecker Salut à toutes et tous
C'est vrai olivier, je... 10/06/2012 à 00:40
cdubrulle Citation (lcaestecker @ 09/06/2012 à 15:4... 10/06/2012 à 01:19
bhowell About the name CARLIER... I have found one record ... 10/06/2012 à 01:40
cdubrulle Citation (bhowell @ 09/06/2012 à 16:40) A... 10/06/2012 à 05:55
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