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bhowell
posté 05/05/2012 à 14:17
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Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

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posté 11/05/2012 à 19:18
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Okay. I read over my records from my uncle again and have some personal things I can share. Also, I've wondered if there could be any records from the University of Paris from the 1850's that might show Arthur's parents. He studied there and after getting his doctorate degree, he went back and became a surgeon. I haven't had any luck but it could be that one of you may know something about those records.

According to a daily journal Arthur kept, he came to USA in late 1860s and practiced medicine from Harrisburg, PA to Erie, PA and across northern Ohio in the late 1860s and 1870s. Also, he made several trips back to Belgium and one was to attend his mother's funeral, Louise Renee (PLANTE') CARLIER who died in 1878.

Two years later 1880, while on a consult in Toledo, he had a massive stroke and died. He was 39 years old.

Ida was married previously to BURDICK and they had a daughter Lettie Mae BURDICK. Arthur adopted her later. Then they had 1) Infant son 1874 stillborn. 2) George Emile CARLIER (my grandfather) and Maude Louise CARLIER MONK (1877-1924). Then my uncle stated that Ida Mae CLOSE died in 1882 at age of 33.


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posté 11/05/2012 à 20:33
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Citation (bhowell @ 11/05/2012 à 09:18) *
Okay. I read over my records from my uncle again and have some personal things I can share.
According to a daily journal Arthur kept, he came to USA in late 1860s and practiced medicine from Harrisburg, PA to Erie, PA and across northern Ohio in the late 1860s and 1870s. Also, he made several trips back to Belgium and one was to attend his mother's funeral, Louise Renee (PLANTE') CARLIER who died in 1878.

Hi Bonnie, François, et bonjour à tous.
I continued my search on the familysearch website of the mormons today. No matter what search criteria I use, I cannot find the marriage of CARLIER x CLOSE that must have been late 1860s or early 1870s ( before the birth of George Emile in 1875) It has probably not been indexed yet.
However, I found Maud CARLIER born in Pennsylvania in 1877, died in 1924, daughter of Arthur E CARLIER and Ida CLOSE, so she is a sister of George Emile. Bonnie is confirming that information in her last post.

THANK YOU so much Bonnie for going through your notes and what you have about your family.
Given the last information that you give us: Arthur kept a journal where he mentions going to the funeral of his mother Louise Renée PLANTE in Belgium. Now, we know the name PLANTE comes from her son, and his mother was not a THOMPSON.
I think that we can conclude that the couple Henri Emile CARLIER x Louise Catherine THOMPSON (married 1839 in England) are not the parents of Arthur Emile CARLIER x Ida CLOSE and Emilie Louise CARLIER x WHITMORE. We were on a wrong track.

Bonnie, do you know where in Belgium Louise Renée PLANTE died in 1878? Does Arthur mentions in his journal the name of the town where the funeral took place? That might be a way to track the family in Belgium.

Have a good day
Christiane
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- bhowell   CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON)   05/05/2012 à 14:17
- - svangrootenbruelle   bonjour Bhowell, ce n'est pas PLANTE mais THO...   05/05/2012 à 15:03
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|- - bhowell   This is so wonderful! Thank you so much!   07/05/2012 à 23:42
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