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bhowell
posté 05/05/2012 à 14:17
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Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

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posté 09/05/2012 à 17:54
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Christiane,

I hate to ask for more since you've already been so generous... but... could you please transcribe message #4? That one really has me puzzled. No rush of course... I still have plenty to review! So exciting... thank you so much!
Bonnie

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posté 09/05/2012 à 20:34
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Citation (bhowell @ 09/05/2012 à 07:54) *
I hate to ask for more since you've already been so generous... but... could you please transcribe message #4? That one really has me puzzled. No rush of course... I still have plenty to review! So exciting... thank you so much!
Bonnie

Hi Bonnie,
No problem with helping , this is what forum members do. I translated first the messages and records regarding your direct line of ascendants, and that was giving you quite a bit of information to digest in two days, that's why I stopped!

Here is the content of message # 4 from Alain

Jean Baptiste Louis CARLIER born 1740 died 1788
married February 29, 1764 in Bergues, St Peter parish with
Marie Jacqueline Guislaine LEFEBVRE, born 1729, died 1790

This couple are the parents of Louis Joseph CARLIER born in december 1764 and married in 1792. Notice that the spelling went from LEFEBVRE to LEFERE. It is not unusual for that period. Priests were using phonetic spelling.

Now, going back to your ancestor Henri Emile CARLIER (1799-1875), he had a brother:
Jean Joseph CARLIER, born 19 April 1794 in Dunkerque, died in 1874 in Paris. He was an agent in maritime transactions as an occupation.
Married 4 December 1844 with Clementine PERRIER born in 1802 Dunkerque, died 1880 in Paris
That couple CARLIER x PERRIER had 1 son:
Louis Joseph CARLIER born 20 March 1846 Paris, died 1921 Paris
Married 1872 with Marguerite ARNAUDTIZON born 1862 in LE HAVRE ( Normandy), died in 1908 in Paris

The couple CARLIER x ARNAUDTIZON had 4 children as follows:
1- Madeleine born 1872 died 1958 married with Charles COLLOT
2- Ludovic who died in 1873
3- Pierre Léon born 1877, died 29 September 1923? General Consul of France in Usbuk (Turkey) married with Germaine BAROIS born 1886, died 1981 (had 3 children)
4- Marianne born 5 May 1882, in Domont, department of Val d'Oise, died 6 september 1977 in Lesneven, department of Finistere (Britanny)
married with Edmond Jules Hippolyte ALLAIN-LAUNAY born 18 december 1878 in Paris, died 17 April 1924 in Domont. He was chief engineer at the "Gaz and Electricity of France" Company.

So these are also descendants of your ancestors Louis CARLIER x Marie HOCKEDEY and therefore your "cousins" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .
If you have any questions about the contents of all messages ( records, trancriptions, details, or more general questions) don't hesitate to ask. This is how this forum works: we all ask questions, whoever knows the answers, gives it, and everyone can benefit from the answers.
Cheers
Christiane






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- bhowell   CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON)   05/05/2012 à 14:17
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