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bhowell
posté 05/05/2012 à 14:17
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Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.
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cdubrulle
posté 08/05/2012 à 07:27
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Hi Bonnie,
I am glad I can help you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and I have some more information for you
We know from the death record in 1875 that Henri Emile CARLIER is the son of Louis Joseph CARLIER and Marie FOCKEDEY

Here is the translation of the information posted in message #3 by Stephane about the marriage CARLIER x FOCKEDEY
January 2, 1792 marriage in Dunkerque of
Louis Joseph CARLIER, 27 years old, born in Bergues St Winoc, St Peter's parish, son of Jean Baptiste Louis CARLIER and Marie Jacqueline Elene LEFERE
x with
Marie Jeanne Elisabeth FOCKEDEY, 23 years old, daughter of François Louis FOCKEDEY and Marie GODEFROY
I found the record in microfilm 5 Mi 27R 046 [M 1791-1794] page 200,
and I can add the names of the witnesses to the marriage:
Jean Baptiste CARLIER, merchant brewer, a cousin of the groom
Pierre LEFERE, Cousin of the groom
Francois Louis FOCKEDEY, merchant brewer, father of the bride
Francois Louis FOCKEDEY, brother of the bride

I noticed in the next record that the sister of Marie Jeanne Elisabeth FOCKEDEY, whose name is Thérèse Cécile HOCKEDEY got married the same day ( January 2, 1792) with Pierre Francois LEFEBVRE.

With the age of Henri Emile CARLIER at the birth of this children I figured roughly his birth year around 1800 and looked for his birth in Dunkerque records.

Dunkerque, microfilm 5 Mi 27 R 027 page 998 we have record # 327
Year 8 of the French Republic, 5 Nivose ( 26 December 1799)
Record of the birth of Henri Emile CARLIER, born the day before yesterday ( the 24th) son of Louis Joseph CARLIER, native of Bergues, St Martin parish, and Marie Jeanne Elizabeht FOCKEDEY
Witnesses Louis Joseph ROUZE, 27 years old, wholesale merchnant, and Thérèse Lucie VANHANDT 23 years old, wife of Jean François FOCKEDEY, brewer, uncle and aunt per marriage of the newborn and living in this town.
Signed FOCKEDEY, CARLIER, VANHANDT, ROUZE, (and the name of the clercq unreadable)

Now for the cherry on top!
In microfilm 5 Mi 27 R 020 [B 1762-1770] page 895, we have record # 983
December 26, 1768
Baptism of Marie Jeanne Elizabeth FOCKEDEY born the 25th
daughter of François Louis FOCKEDEY, native of Dunkerque
and Marie GODEFROY also of Dunkerque
Godfather: Jean Baptiste GODEFROY
Godmother: Elizabeth PERDU, widow of Pierre FOCKEDEY

I know it's a lot of stuff to digest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and if you have any questions about these records or about these ancestors, please don't hesitate to ask. This forum is there to help.
Good night
Christiane




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