CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON), Dunkerque Options

[bhowell]

Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.

Raison de l'édition : rectification du titre compte tenu des apports ultérieurs

[cfacon]

Bonjour à tous,

Vous trouverez ci-après une autre présentation de l'ascendance de Bonnie. Il n'y a rien de nouveau, tout est contenu dans la discussion. Tous les événements aux USA ont été vérifiés à partir des données accessibles sur le site FamilySearch (etat-civil, recensement, ..) et ont été indiqués par Christiane. Les difficultés commencent avec la génération 4 et 5 pour la famille CARLIER. Bonnie dispose d'un rapport de son oncle (CARLIER Charles Wilbur) et le détail est rappelé dans le message # 89 de Christiane.
Peut-être que cette présentation nous permettra d'apporter une aide complémentaire.
Il semble intéressant de se procurer le journal d'Arthur CARLIER. La recherche de l'acte de mariage Arthur Emile CARLIER x Ida Mae CLOSE semble difficile sans date ni lieu. Le décès d'Arthur CARLIER peut amener des informations, il est situé en 1880 et Arthur a été inhumé à Toledo.
Bonnie devrait vérifier cet arbre pour indiquer éventuellement les erreurs.

TRANSLATION
You will find hereafter another way to display Bonnie's ancestry. Nothing new, all details are in the discussion. All events occurred in US have been checked with data available on FamilySearch website (birth, marriage and death records, census, ...) and provided by Christiane. Difficulties start with generations 4 and 5 regarding CARLIER family. Bonnie has a kind of report written by one of her uncle (CARLIER Charles Wilbur) and all details are available in Christiane's # 89 message.
May be this other way to display ancestry will allow you to bring an additional help.
It seems interesting to find the journal as prepared by Arthur CARLIER. Searching marriage record Arthur Emile CARLIER x Ida Mae CLOSE seens difficult since date and place are not available. Arthur death record may contain useful information, Arthur deceased in 1880 and has been buried in Toledo.
Please Bonnie have a look to the following tree to check if there are errors.

Generation 1

1 CARLIER Bonnie

Generation 2

2 CARLIER George Emile °1905 (US) + 1978 (US)
3

Generation 3

4 CARLIER George Emile ° 06 October 1875 Erie, Pennsylvania; X 02 May 1900 Montgomery, Ohio; + 04 July 1941 Dayton, Ohio

Children:
- 1 CARLIER Newel ° 16 March 1901 Dayton, Ohio +;
- 2 CARLIER Gladys ° abt 1903, Ohio
- 4 CARLIER Ida Mae ° 11 June 1906 Mad River; Montgomery, Ohio; + 04 November 1906 Mad River, Montgomery, Ohio;
- 5 CARLIER Ruth Meril ° 21 November 1907 Mad River; Montgomery, Ohio; + 19 January 1988 Fresno, California;
- 6 CARLIER Verona ° 08 June 1910;
- 7 CARLIER Charles Wilbur ° 1911; + 1985; (the Uncle through the discussion)
- 8 CARLIER Albert Laverne ° 1915;

5 SPINK Annie (or Anna) E. ° 18 October 1881 Elyra, Illinois; X 02 May 1900 Montgomery, Ohio;

Generation 4

8 CARLIER Arthur Emile ° 1841 (Belgium); X 1873 abt, ???; + 1880; buried 1880, Toledo, Ohio;

Children:
- 1 CARLIER stillborn ° 1874 (US); + 1874 (US);
- 3 CARLIER Maude Louise ° 20 February 1877; + 25 april 1924 Lima, Allen County, Ohio;

9 CLOSE Ida (Idalia) Mae ° 1848-1851; X 22 February 1866 Cuyahoga County, Ohio; XX 1873 abt, ???; + 1882;

10 SPINK William X 01 June 1882 Lorain County, Ohio
11 PARSH Elisabeth X 01 June 1882 Lorain County, Ohio

Generation 5

16 CARLIER Henri Emile ° 1817 (Belgium); X 1838 (Belgium), + 1875 (Belgium)

Children:
- 1 CARLIER George Emile ° 1839 (Belgium); + 1852 (Belgium)
- 3 CARLIER Emily Louise ° 1843 (Belgium); + 1874 (Belgium)

17 PLANTE Louise Renée ° 1821 (Belgium); + 1875 (Belgium)

18 CLOSE Newel J.°1821; X 27 December 1839 Lorain County, Ohio

Children:
- 1 Mary L ° 1840 abt Sullivan, Ashland County, Ohio; + 17 December 1921 Washington, District of Columbia;
- 2 Jane ° 1845 abt
- 3 Theresa A.° 20 February 1847, Ohio; +;
- 5 Rosa ° 1855 abt
- 6 Alice M. ° 1867 abt, Ohio

19 MEAD Sarah Jane °1825; X 27 December 1839 Lorain County, Ohio

Bonne journée, Have a nice day
Christian

Ce message a été modifié par cfacon - 09/06/2012 à 14:46.

[cdubrulle]

TRANSLATION[/b]
You will find hereafter another way to display Bonnie's ancestry. Nothing new, all details are in the discussion.
May be this other way to display ancestry will allow you to bring an additional help.
Searching marriage record Arthur Emile CARLIER x Ida Mae CLOSE seems difficult since date and place are not available. Arthur death record may contain useful information, Arthur deceased in 1880 and has been buried in Toledo.
Please Bonnie have a look to the following tree to check if there are errors.
Generation 4
8 CARLIER Arthur Emile ° 1841 (Belgium); X 1873 abt, ???; + 1880; buried 1880, Toledo, Ohio;
Children:
- 1 CARLIER stillborn ° 1874 (US); + 1874 (US);
- 3 CARLIER Maude Louise ° 20 February 1877; + 25 april 1924 Lima, Allen County, Ohio;
9 CLOSE Ida (Idalia) Mae ° 1848-1851; X 22 February 1866 Cuyahoga County, Ohio; XX 1873 abt, ???; + 1882;
'
Generation 5
16 CARLIER Henri Emile ° 1817 (Belgium); X 1838 (Belgium), + 1875 (Belgium)
Children:
- 1 CARLIER George Emile ° 1839 (Belgium); + 1852 (Belgium)
- 3 CARLIER Emily Louise ° 1843 (Belgium); + 1874 (Belgium)
17 PLANTE Louise Renée ° 1821 (Belgium); + 1875 (Belgium)
Christian

Bonjour à tous/toutes,

Good Job Christian !
Je ne peux pas faire ce style de tableau avec mon logiciel.
Je ne vois pas d'erreur, mais Bonnie devrait vérifier elle-même bien sur.

Un seul detail dans ce tableau:
Je vois que le sosa Carlier d'une génération ne figure pas parmi les enfants de la génération au-dessus:
Georges Emile de génération 3 n'est pas parmi les enfants de généraiton 4
Arthur de génération 4 n'est pas parmi les enfants de génération 5
Ce n'est pas un problème pour moi, mais je me demandais si ce sera clair pour d'autres.
Bon week-end