CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON), Dunkerque Options

[bhowell]

Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.

Raison de l'édition : rectification du titre compte tenu des apports ultérieurs

[cfacon]

Hi Bonnie, bonjour Christiane, bonjour à tous,

-1- To avoid any misunderstanding with the "Uncle", please Bonnie give us the first name of the uncle together with first and last name of his wife since ancestry was studied on this side.
-2- Through the discussions it was mentioned several times by Bonnie that Arthur migrated to US, made several trips to Europe and came to Europe (Antwerp) to attend his mother funeral. We do have a possibility to trace these various trips and I agree with Christiane with the idea to study immigration lists ans passengers lists.

On ISTG website, I found the following:
6 Arthur Carlier 24 M Gent England New York 2nd Cabin
Columns represent: given name and surname, occupation, the country to which they severally belong, the country of which they intend to become inhabitants, and the part of the ship occupied during the voyage.
He was passenger on Atalanta vessel crossing from London, England and Le Havre, France to New York 25 March 1867
It might be the same Arthur as found by Bonnie but the trip was in 1867 instead of 1876. Possibly an error between the armchair and the computer.

On Ancestry.com website, I also found an Arthur CARLIER without details if we have not subscribed to the site. Anyway the place of arrival is given for Pennsylvania.

-3- Christiane gave us some informations collected from LDS Site, in particuler about various census.
In 1880, Ida Mae and children are based at Sullivan, Ashland County, OH, living with Ida parents. Marital status for Ida is "Married". In case Arthur died before census, marital status would be "Widowed".
Same year, Christiane found another census for Henrietta, Lorain, Ohio where we have an Arthur CARLIER living in a cheese factory. His marital status is also "married".
During the discussion, Bonnie explained that Arthur used to work, time to time, in a cheese factory to win money. In case we are able to find more details, I think we have to push forward our investigations. I tried to study the the family of the cheese factory COLE & Co for finding a possible link with CARLIER and/or CLOSE families. Without success at this time.

-4- I agree with Christiane with the idea to get the full copy of the journal written by Arthur. If I have well understood, this document has been given by Arthur to the family and today Debby CARLIER (FINK ?), daughter of Ruth Meril CARLIER, has this journal. For sure copy of this document is to be kept by Bonnie.

-5- Regarding the marriage register for Henry Emile Carlier from Kensington dated for July, Aug and Sept 1839. I bet it is the marriage Henri Emile CARLIER x Louise Catherine THOMPSON August 2nd 1839 Upper Chelsea. We have already discussed about this event.

Good investigations
Christian