CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON), Dunkerque Options

[bhowell]

Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.

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[† lcaestecker]

Bonjour Christiane et Bonnie

On attend des indices pour vous aider !

Laurent

Ce message a été modifié par lcaestecker - 02/06/2012 à 10:36.

[cdubrulle]

Bonjour Christiane et Bonnie
On attend des indices pour vous aider !
Laurent

Bonjour Laurent,
Moi aussi j'attend des indices...

I've wondered if there could be any records from the University of Paris from the 1850's that might show Arthur's parents. He studied there and after getting his doctorate degree, he went back and became a surgeon. I haven't had any luck but it could be that one of you may know something about those records.

According to a daily journal Arthur kept, he came to USA in late 1860s and practiced medicine from Harrisburg, PA to Erie, PA and across northern Ohio in the late 1860s and 1870s. Also, he made several trips back to Belgium and one was to attend his mother's funeral, Louise Renee (PLANTE') CARLIER who died in 1878.

Two years later 1880, while on a consult in Toledo, he had a massive stroke and died. He was 39 years old.

Hi bonnie,
I noticed I had not answered your question. When it comes to researching the archives of the School of Medecine in Paris, we can't do it.
Since it is in Paris, this is not the subject of this forum which deals only with research in the Nord and Pas-de-Calais departments.

This morning I went to the meeting of the genealogy association of my area and the lecture was about comparing the genealogist's work to detective work which is quite true. This made me think about your problem and after re-reading your messages the following questions came to me:

- How long ago did your uncle made his research and write his notes?
- Do you have his original notes? or do you have only some information extracted from his notes?
- Does everything in your uncle's notes come from Arthur's journal, or did your uncle do some research himself?
- Did your uncle document the sources of his notes, such as "I found this and that in document so and so", or in a microfilm? or in such archive?
- Where did he find that Arthur studied medecine in Paris?
- What made him say that Arthur immigrated in the late 60s. Do you have any immigration record? Do you know if he came after the end of the Civil War? He doesn't seem to be in the 1870 Federal Census
- Do you have the precise date and place of Arthur and Ida's marriage or a copy of the record?
- Is the date of their marriage in Arthur's journal?

I am concerned because nothing you gave us about Arthur and his parents seems to have precise dates, just years, and we are not finding anything to document it.
- Do you, or did your uncle get any birth, marriage, or death records or any other official documents about Arthur Emile CARLIER?
- Or are these years just estimates?

You told us about Arthur CARLIER that:
- his father Henri Emile CARLIER was born in 1817 in Belgium, and died in 1875,
- his mother Louise Renée PLANTE was born in 1821 in Belgium, and died in 1878 in Belgium
- they got married in 1838 in Belgium
Do you have the precise dates or are those estimated?

Sorry to make you work... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Have a good Sunday,
Christiane