CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON), Dunkerque Options

[bhowell]

Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.

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[bhowell]

Christine,
I can't thank you enough for all you've done. You're amazing.

I did find two directory listings:

1) CARLIERE ARTHUR DR, physician and surgeon, office and h 18th bet Ash Lane and Wayne (I think Erie PA - an advertisement on that page was in Erie, PA. but no heading to the page copied.)

2) US City Directories 148839987 - Carlier Arthur, physician, 26 Dwight. H. do. Boston Directory

May not be the same as my Arthur.

Anyway... I will try and find the Family History Center and rent the microfilm. I'll let you know if I find a connection.

There was a human-interest story that my uncle included that I thought I would share with you. When Arthur married Ida Mae she had been married before to a Burdick. They had a child named Lettie Mae Burdick Carlier. (Arthur adopted her.) Then later they had two children of their own. George and Maude. When Lettie Mae knew she didn't have long to live, she asked her half sister, Maude if she would marry Frank Monks (her husband) and raise her two children. And Maude did just that. Married Frank and raised their two children. I think that was an extraordinary selfless thing for her to do.

Again, thank you for all your help! Hope you have a good day!
Bonnie

[cdubrulle]

I did find two directory listings:

1) CARLIERE ARTHUR DR, physician and surgeon, office and h 18th bet Ash Lane and Wayne (I think Erie PA - an advertisement on that page was in Erie, PA. but no heading to the page copied.)

2) US City Directories 148839987 - Carlier Arthur, physician, 26 Dwight. H. do. Boston Directory

May not be the same as my Arthur.

Hi Bonnie
The story of Maude is very telling.
Do you have the dates of the two directory listings you found? As you say, it might not be your Arthur. There were many Carlier in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and all the border States.
As you might have noticed in my long message, eveytime we found something about George CARLIER it was associated with the name SPINK or CLOSE, so we knew it was the right CARLIER. On the other hand, we found no record (marriage or death) about Arthur CARLIER himself, associated with CLOSE. We found him only as a "father, born in PA" in one, and "father, born in France" in another.

Family stories have a tendency to change as they are transmitted from generation to generation and details get lost, so it would be so useful if you could get Arthur's journal.

To find the Family History Center ( FHC) of your area, the easiert way is to go to this page:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp
and fill out Country, your state, your County, and click "Search"
If you fill out only "North Carolina" you will get the addresses of the 43 FHC in N. Carolina. If you add your County you can choose the FHC closest to your home. Mine is 20 miles away and I go there once a week.
When you order a microfilm, it takes about 2-3 weeks to arrive from Salt Lake City to the FHC

At the centers, the volunteers are friendly, they don't ask any question about your religion and don't try to convert you... They are there to help you with your genealogy search. The volunteer who suggested to search for the probate is a professionnal genealogist, and I think her idea is a good one. If you do find the probate, ask to make a photocopy or print of everything you find.
I hope you do find it. Depending on what you find, the volunteers might suggest something else.

I wish you good luck, and let us know what you find (or don't find)'
Christiane