CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON), Dunkerque Options

[bhowell]

Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.

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[cdubrulle]

Hi Bonnie, bonjour Christian et Stephane,

Thank you Christian for your intervention and since you write so well in English I don't need to write my answer in both english and french.
First, I have to specify that Mae is a first name ( un prénom ) for girls.
Second, the problem with research in the US is that married women are often not under their maiden name after marriage.
So when Bonnie said that Arthur married Ida Mae CARLIER, Ida Mae was her first and middle names and CARLIER was most likely her married name. Bonnie could confirm this

Hi Bonnie,
I agree with Christian and Stephane that we found a line of ancestors that I checked with records, but the fact remains that the name PLANTE that you gave us at the beginning bring some doubts that we are on the right track with the right ancestors. PLANTE and THOMPSON are not even phonetically close.

Something remains coherent between what you gave us in your first message:
1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852)
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880)
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874)

and the births records we found:
15 May 1840 birth of Henri Emile Arthur CARLIER
15 April 1843 birth of William Emile George CARLIER -
09 June 1846 birth of Emilie Louise CARLIER,
except that the mother is THOMPSON and not PLANTE
I just found that William Emile George died in 1871 in Dunkerque at age 28 (not 13)
I did not find any PLANTE in the 1873-1882 death tables in Dunkerque. I did not find any THOMPSON either.

Bonnie wrote that Henri Emile CARLIER died in Belgium, and that is what I found in the French transcription of his death record in Anvers ( Antwerp ) says.

Like Christian, I think that you should return to Arthur and find his parents through his death and marriage records in the US. You might even have to start with the records about your grandfather if you don't have them, to make sure you are on the right track and with the right information.

One way to do research free, is to go to the Family History Center (Mormon) of your area. You don't have to be a Mormon. They are very helpful no matter your religious affiliation. I go to mine once a week to do my French research.
Right now I have to go but I will get back to you if I find something or if I think of something else.
Cheers
Amicalement à tous,
Christiane