CARLIER X PLANTE (ou THOMSON), Dunkerque Options

[bhowell]

Hello,

I have been searching for a few months now and I desperately need some help. I told my aunt I would find out who her great, great grandparents were and I just keep coming up with dead ends. As she is nearing 102 in June, I want to get this info for her as soon as I can.

The info I do have (from a family member) is this:

Henry Emile Carlier (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee Plante (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile Carlier - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile Carlier (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida Mae (Close) Carlier and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise Carlier - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Arthur had three children, George Emile, Sr. was one of them and he was my grandfather. His son was George Emile Carlier, Jr., my dad.

The biggest problem is that I don't know what region in Belgium they were from and I don't know where to begin looking. Any suggestions regarding where I might go for information, would be greatly appreciated. Since I am on a very limited income, I cannot pay to join the various websites. Other spellings might be Carlior, Charlier, Carler,

Thank you so much for any suggestions,
BHowell

Ce message a été modifié par dlarchet - 05/05/2012 à 23:24.

Raison de l'édition : rectification du titre compte tenu des apports ultérieurs

[cfacon]

Hi Bonnie,

Thanks to the translation you have answered the question ask by Stéphane and in fact the question was already part of the very first message n°2.
Indeed, your initial request was abut the following family:

Henry Emile CARLIER (1817-1875) Born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, France.
He married Louise Renee PLANTE (1821-1878) in 1838 in Belgium. She too born in Belgium and buried in Dunkirk, Fr. They had three children:

1) George Emile CARTIER - (1839-1852) died when he was 13.
2) Dr. Arthur Emile CARTIER (1841-1880) studied at University of Paris and became a surgeon. Came to US in late 1860's. He married Ida MAE (Close) CARLIER and lived in Ohio. He traveled around northern Ohio into Pennsylvania practicing medicine. It was said that he would work at a cheese factory from time to time when he was low on funds and used that for medical supplies. He was called to Toledo, OH for at a consultation when he had a stroke and died. He was buried in Toledo.
3) Emily Louise CARLIER - (1843-1874) no other info for her.

Further to the various contributions we are now in front of another family:

Henri Emile CARLIER born 21 december 1799 Dunkirk, France
Married with THOMPSON Louise Catherine born around 1809 London, on 2 august 1839 Upper-Chelsea, England
They had children:

1) Henri Emile Arthur CARLIER born 15 may 1840 Dunkirk, France
2) William emile George CARLIER born 14 april 1840 Dunkirk, France
3) Emilie Louisa Caroline CARLIER born 18 june 1846 Dunkirk, France

For sure, the main difference is about Louise Renée PLANTE, furthermore your couple is supposed to have been married in Belgium. We also have a huge difference on Henri Emile CARLIER birth.
Informations collected through this forum seems correct and are justified with records.

One way to be sure that the new family is really part of your ancestors is to start from Arthur Emile CARLIER married with Ida MAE. When you write ...MAE (Close)..., I suppose that the name MAE is uncertain or difficult to read. Have you the record corresponding to this marriage? Usually, names of parents are included and it is a good way to verify whether we arre speaking about PLANTE or THOMPSON.

Remark:
In your last message, you explain you found a Louise PLANTE nee MESLET in records in USA. I have not the origin of the information, in a french text or record nee could be "née", let say born for a daughter or "né" for a son.
Not always but it is frequent, when a mother registers a child born prior to the marriage, the child is declared in the record under the name of the mother and later, if the mother get married, the child is recognised by both father and mother for legitimation purpose. Birth records are not always rectified with this legitimation and it is useful to keep in mind the initial name of the child.
It is a possible explaination.

Christian

Ce message a été modifié par cfacon - 10/05/2012 à 14:00.