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jsunbeam
posté 15/02/2011 à 07:17
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Hello everyone,

My apologies for not writing and speaking French. I will try and translate this as well.
My name is Jo-Anne Sunbeam and i come from the South Island of New Zealand. I am looking for the 13 children of Ignace CAFLER and his wife Catherine TOURTOIS. All i have to go on is that he was a Sugar Beet Manufacturer around the 1800 - 1810 era. I know he had two children, Edouard Eugene CAFLER born 1797/8 supposedly the youngest of 13 children. I have found a Theodore CAFLER marrying Louise REDE in 1838 who had the same parents and therefore was a brother.
Edouard CAFLER left France and when to Mauritius where he married Uranie DIORE in 1832. Her father was also a sugar planter in Mauritius. In 1834 they were in Hobart, Australia and they arrived in New Zealand around 1836 - 1838. Apart from a couple of visits back to France, Edouard Eugene CAFLER remained in New Zealand where he died in 1893.

I have found out a bit about Mon. CAFLER manufacturing sugar in the early 1820's from books online but nothing about the family per se. Please could someone help me find the births and records of this family.

Cheers

Jo Sunbeam

Bonjour chacun,

Mes apologies de ne pas écrire et parler le français. Je l'essaierai et traduirai aussi.
Mon nom est le Rayon de soleil Jo-Anne et je viens de l'Île Sud de la Nouvelle-Zélande. Je cherche les 13 enfants d'Ignace CAFLER et de sa femme Catherine TOURTOIS. Tout je dois continuer est qu'il était un Fabricant de Betterave sucrière autour du 1800 - l'ère de 1810. Je sais qu'il avait deux enfants Edouard Eugene CAFLER nés 1797/8 par supposition le plus jeune de 13 enfants. J'ai trouvé un mariage de Theodore CAFLER Louise REDE en 1838 qui avait les mêmes parents et était donc un frère.
Edouard CAFLER a quitté la France et quand en Maurice où il s'est marié avec Uranie DIORE en 1832. Son père était aussi un planteur de sucre en Maurice. En 1834 ils étaient dans Hobart, l'Australie et ils sont arrivés en Nouvelle-Zélande 1836 - 1838. Sauf deux ou trois visites en arrière en France, Edouard Eugene CAFLER est resté en Nouvelle-Zélande où il est mort en 1893.

J'ai appris un peu lundi. CAFLER le sucre industriel au début des années 1820 des livres en ligne mais rien de la famille en soi. S'il vous plaît pourrait quelqu'un m'aider à trouver les naissances et les dossiers de cette famille.

Acclamations

Jo Sunbeam
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jsunbeam
posté 15/02/2011 à 19:17
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Merci beaucoup Bertrand and Christiane,

This means that Edouard Eugene CAFLER if he was born in 1798 was the oldest not the youngest of Ignace and Catherine OR he could be the youngest of Ignace CAFLER and Elisabeth DEMAILLY.

All i have to go on is his death certificate which is only as good as the person who fills it out remembers and this excerpt below from the Encyclopaedia of New Zealand, which makes interesting reading. The french were very active in the Pacific area in the 1800's.

Mr. Edouard Eugene CAFLER, sometime of “Sans Souci,” Whangarei. Mr. CAFLER was born in 1798 near Douai in France, and was the youngest of a family of thirteen. His father was the founder of the beet-root sugar industry, and a staunch supporter of the First Napoleon, by whom he was commissioned to prosecute inquiries into the manufacture of sugar from beet. The English navies having swept French commerce from the seas, sugar was a scare commodity in France and large bounties were offered for its production. Several of his sons fought and fell in the wars of the great Emperor, and Mr. CAFLER was himself included in the ceaseless levies which France poured forth so dauntlessly against Europe. When only eighteen he served in the ambulance corps at the Battle of Waterloo. After the overthrow of Napoleon, the CAFLER family suffered great misfortunes and they saw their home and sugar-factory destroyed. In 1830 Edouard Eugene, the subject of this notice, who had received a good education at the Ecole de Commerce, left France for the Mauritius, and until the year 1840 was engaged in mercantile pursuits. His practice was to freight a vessel with Mauritius sugar and sail as his own supercargo to some eastern where the market was favourable, sell it and return to Mauritius laden with merchandise. In this way he visited Manila, Canton, Macao, Singapore, Calcutta, Cape of Good Hope, Swan River, Hobart, Launceston, and New Caledonia, amassing during those ten years considerable wealth. An attack of yellow fever in China having seriously affected his health, he was advised to come to New Zealand and landed at Kororareka (now Russell), which block he purchased in 1840. There he enjoyed such robust health that he went to Australia and returned with all the necessary materials for building and improving his property. He enjoyed friendly relations with the Maoris and carried on a successful trade with them till 1845, when Heke's war broke out and Kororareka was sacked, every house except Bishop POMPALLIER'S church being burned. Mr. CAFLER remained in his house until it was riddled with bullets, but Heke afterwards conducted him through the Maori camp, which was filled with plunder, and undertook to restore whatever belonged to him as well as to indemnify him to the utmost of his power. After Mr. CAFLER had removed to Auckland, Heke fulfilled his promise by returning three valuable horses, but it was not in the chief's power to make good the heavy loss Mr. CAFLER had sustained. Leaving Auckland in February, 1846, in the French corvette, “Le Rhin,” commanded by Admiral BERARD, he proceeded to Akaroa, where he possessed considerable interests. His claim, however, was subsequently ignored by the Government and he received no compensation. Mr. CAFLER returned to France with the corvette, visiting en route the tomb of Napoleon at St. Helena, and arrived at Marseilles in August, 1846, He again left France in 1848 for Mauritius, where he remained until 1853, when he sailed for Sydney and during the next two years made several voyages between that port and Auckland and the Kaipara. He had decided to settle at the latter place, but was induced to give preference to Whangarei where he afterwards resided. Establishing himself in business he soon gained the esteem of all who came in contact with him and gradually extended his connections till he did nearly the whole trade of the district. Owing to a disastrous fire and other losses Mr. CAFLER sold out his business and took up his residence at “Sans Souci,” where his house and tastefully laid out grounds were for years one of the principal attractions of Whangarei. Though ninety-five years of age he retained his health and good spirits and was able to ride his horse to within a short time prior to his death, with the agility of a much younger man. Mr. CAFLER suffered from no physical disease beyond a gradual failure of strength and occasionally would complain that he felt “so tired.” He died on the 20th of February, 1893. peacefully and without a pang, in the presence of his sorrowing family, dying as he had lived “sans peur et sans reproche” through a very eventful career.

Whether it is true or not i do not know. I guess until we find his birth record in 1798. I must apologize for all the translating you are having to do Christiane but he is such an interesting man, unusual in this English of lands in the Pacific.

Cheers and thanks for all your help

Jo Sunbeam
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- jsunbeam   CAFLER x TOURTOIS   15/02/2011 à 07:17
- - cziemczak   Bonjour, Citation (jsunbeam @ 15/02/2011 à 0...   15/02/2011 à 08:24
|- - cdubrulle   Citation (cziemczak @ 14/02/2011 à 23:24)...   15/02/2011 à 09:09
- - cdubrulle   Citation (jsunbeam @ 14/02/2011 à 22:17) ...   15/02/2011 à 08:54
- - jsunbeam   Thank you very much Christophe and Christiane. Ed...   15/02/2011 à 09:11
- - cdubrulle   Hi Jo-Anne, Thank you for sharing what you found ...   15/02/2011 à 09:28
- - bcrepel   Bonjour, Le mariage CAFLERS Ignace Joseph x TOURT...   15/02/2011 à 10:11
- - bcrepel   Bonsoir, J'ai relevé l'acte de mariage in...   15/02/2011 à 17:32
- - cdubrulle   Bonjour Jo-Anne I am up and running... Bertrand we...   15/02/2011 à 18:34
- - jsunbeam   Merci beaucoup Bertrand and Christiane, This mean...   15/02/2011 à 19:17
- - dbouquet   Hello everybody, Welcome Jo-Ann ! I will giv...   15/02/2011 à 20:18
|- - cziemczak   Bonsoir, Citation (dbouquet @ 15/02/2011 à 2...   15/02/2011 à 22:20
|- - mdesmolin   Bonjour, Citation (cziemczak @ 15/02/2011 à ...   16/02/2011 à 13:31
- - iblin   Bonsoir à tous Quelques compléments Citation 7 P...   15/02/2011 à 20:52
- - dbouquet   re bonsoir, Pour compléter encore ce que donne Is...   15/02/2011 à 21:08
- - jsunbeam   Le merci, Didier et Isabelle pour vos réponses à m...   16/02/2011 à 09:36
- - cdubrulle   Bonjour à tous, Voici la traduction de l'artic...   17/02/2011 à 09:38
- - jsunbeam   Bonjour Chacun, J'ai peur je dois mettre ma re...   23/02/2011 à 18:52
- - cdubrulle   Hello Jo-Ann, I have been thinking about you the l...   24/02/2011 à 09:16
|- - jsunbeam   Thanks Christiane Things are pretty grim here, th...   24/02/2011 à 09:58
|- - cdubrulle   Citation (jsunbeam @ 24/02/2011 à 00:58) ...   25/02/2011 à 01:31
|- - mecaron   Bonjour Jo-Ann, Nous pensons toujours à vous.... ...   15/05/2011 à 14:04
- - cdubrulle   Hello Jo-Anne, I have been thinking about you. I...   13/06/2011 à 08:12
|- - jsunbeam   Salut Christiane Bien Christchurch s'est vrai...   13/06/2011 à 08:41
- - cdubrulle   Hello Jo-Anne, I am so sorry to hear that you are ...   14/06/2011 à 07:17
- - jfmonet   Bonjour, Actuellement je suis entrain d'étudi...   04/05/2020 à 09:29
- - dbouquet   Bonjour, Deux possibilités : 1) ce n'est pas...   04/05/2020 à 09:40


  
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